Showing posts with label Richard Abanes. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Richard Abanes. Show all posts

Wednesday, January 19, 2011

Behold The Great Humility Of Rick Warren - Rick Warren's Sermon At Desiring God (Part 6)

The following commentary corresponds to the following video from 21:45 to 23:30



Here we see a small sampling of a lot that lies ahead. Rick Warren admonishes his audience that the one necessary quality they need to be learners, and hence disciples, and hence leaders (you know, that vast biblical doctrine of "leadership") is humility. Within the space of less than two minutes Warren makes both a clarion call to humility and a brazen statement about how he is so much smarter than his enemies. Arrogant and jerk are strong words but I can't think of anything stronger so they will have to suffice for now. I just cannot believe that Rick Warren can continually act like an arrogant jerk in these large forums and not get taken to task.

Most likely, the enemies Warren is referring to are those who have been critical of his theology and practice. Not only did Warren give an apt demonstration of his staggering humility by pronouncing himself "smarter than" his "enemies", he also dumped on his many discerning critics saying that they are people "who only learn from themselves" - lacking the clear Yoda like qualities Warren has gained through his advanced learning abilities. Unbelievable - is he that delusional that he cannot hear what he is saying? Four of Warren's strongest critics who immediately spring to mind are Michael Horton, John Macarthur, Tim Challies, and James White. So is Rick Warren saying that these guys are dumber than he is? Is he saying that they are unlearned and only read their own work? Is he saying that he is way more humble than they are? Michael Horton, John Macarthur, Tim Challies, and James White are four giant intellects who grace the evangelical landscape with outstanding biblical exposition, depth of knowledge, and razor sharp apologetics. These are not the kind of guys to shoot from the hip and when they level criticism at Warren it is not unfounded nor ungrounded. Some of that has been on display as this series has progressed revealing that they are very aware of Rick Warren's "theological content".

But does Rick Warren really learn from his critics? The three most common and serious charges leveled against him would be:
1. His failure to preach the Gospel.
2. The fact that he continually twists Scripture and is overtly willing to use poor Bible translations in instances where they lend credence to his own ideas.
3. His regular failure to distinguish between believers and unbelievers when applying covenants and promises found in Scripture.

These are very serious grievances. The chorus of criticism did reach the point where Pastor Warren felt it necessary to write a book that would respond to the critics and set the record straight. He hired an apologetics attack dog by the name of Richard Abanes to harass websites and blogs that were critical of Warren as well as write the book "Rick Warren And The Purpose That Drives Him". So Rick Warren devoted a whole book to respond to the many criticisms leveled at him. And what did he have to say in response to those "big three" grievances mentioned above? Nothing - absolutely nothing! While Warren devotes plenty of energy in downplaying his friendship with Robert Schuller and his connections with the emergent church, he dances around the strongest objections raised against his ministry - in a book devoted to responding to these critics! Rick - this is not a great advertisement for how much you learn from your critics.

Tim Challies had this to say about "Rick Warren And The Purpose That Drives Him":

The single most common concern raised about Warren (at least in my experience) is his use (or misuse) of Scripture. This comes in two forms. First, Warren often quotes verses out of context or in ways that are advantageous to the point he is trying to make. He will often quote only a half of a verse if the second half does not support what he wants to say. Second, he uses poor translations and translations that say what he wants the Bible to say, rather than what God intended for it to say. There are times when this may be an honest mistake, but there are other times when it is clear that Warren has deliberately twisted a verse or taken it from its context to make it work for his purposes. Despite these two areas being of prime importance to those who are concerned with Warren's ministry, Abanes gives this no attention whatsoever. None. Not a sentence.

Another common criticism is Warren's prayer in the seventh chapter of The Purpose Driven Life. He leads the reader to pray, "Jesus I believe in you and I receive you" and then welcomes to the family of God anyone who prayed that little prayer sincerely. Yet this was before the person was provided any significant information about sin or repentance. It would be easy to assume that the person was praying to receive purpose more than to receive Christ. This is a very common criticism, yet one Abanes does not address. (online source)

All that from the man who sets new standards in humility. The pastor who is so much smarter than his critics because he learns so much from them - the very same critics who "only learn from themselves". Think about it, America's Pastor is pretty impressive. He was able to lecture us about humility, trash his opponents, and dazzle us with his smartitude all in the space of two minutes of video.

More to come . . .

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Thursday, September 11, 2008

What Richard Abanes Doesn't Want You to Hear

Here is the Crosstalk program that Richard Abanes has twice blocked due to false claims of copyright infringement. Well it's now back in it's third incarnation and well worth the listen . . .



I have a list of people I don't want to cross swords with and Ingrid Schlueter is on that list.

Tuesday, September 9, 2008

"It's The Gospel Stupid"

It’s The Gospel Stupid
Continuing on from yesterday where Todd Friel critiqued Rick Warren’s “gospel presentation” on the Fox network last Christmas . . . .



This ”gospel presentation” is just atrocious. It totally dismisses the penal substitutionary element of Christ’s atoning work on the cross. There is only one reason I can think of for avoiding the best part of the good news (that Christ endured the just wrath of God in the place of sinners who deserve it). To explain penal substitutionary atonement requires an explanation of why people deserve God's wrath and Pastor Warren just doesn’t seem to want to go there.

Not only was key information missing, but some of the information given was just plain false. The whole idea that Jesus died to give us a “second chance” shows either woeful ignorance or deliberate distortion of Scripture. The fact of the matter is that unregenerate men are “dead in trespasses and sin” (Ephesians 2:1) and a second chance is no use to a dead man, he needs the resurrection life that is found only in Christ. A second chance will only reaffirm our wicked sinful nature. We need to be regenerated and changed by God with the indwelling of His Holy Spirit into a new creature – Born Again. A “second chance” doesn’t even come close to God’s glorious plan of salvation.

Where was sin? Where was repentance? Where was judgment? Where was God’s Holiness? Not only was Rick Warren’s “gospel presentation” lacking – it was a complete swing and a miss. And here is the problem for Richard Abanes (Rick Warren’s cyberspace attack dog). He even wrote a book in response to Rick Warren’s critics but it never focused on the main issue.

Bill Clinton once said of the key issue in politics “It’s the economy stupid” (never thought I'd quote Billary). Well the key issue in Christianity – “It’s the Gospel stupid”. Many of Rick Warren's critics (including Pastor Ken Silva who had his website deleted) don't have a personal problem with Rick Warren, but they do have a major issue with the false gospel he preaches. Richard Abanes has spent a lot of energy defending Rick Warren without discussing the main point and contending over the core elements of the Once for All Delivered Gospel. Amidst all the noise he’s making in cyberspace, Richard Abanes is very silent on this issue.

Monday, September 8, 2008

Rick Warren v The True Gospel

If Saturday's installment wasn't enough to expose Rick Warren's false gospel then here's our second installment. Why am I doing this? As a refresher for those new to this blog I have made the decision to speak openly about the false gospel Rick Warren preaches. I am compelled to do this because there is a concerted effort being made by a particular "defender of Rick Warren" to silence and censor those who are trying to question Rick Warren's teaching.

Apologist Richard Abanes has taken on the role of defender of Rick Warren - a very tough gig considering the gospel Warren preaches. Richard Abanes recently succeeded in getting an ISP to shut down a very good Christian website (Apprising Ministries run by Pastor Ken Silva) because he didn't like what was being said about Rick Warren. So much for freedom of speech!

Richard seems to feel hurt that some people don't like his friend Rick Warren. Listen up Richard - they don't have a personal problem with Rick Warren, they have a huge problem with the damage he is doing to biblical christianity by preaching a false gospel. In fact the Apostle Paul told us to "mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them" (Romans 16:17). The criticism is legitimate and you need to face up to it. I challenge you to biblically respond to John MacArthurs asessment of the "purpose driven gospel" as seen in my pevious post. If that's not enough then let's look at Rick Warren's gospel presentation last Christmas on the Fox network.

One of the greatest tragedies that I saw last Christmas was the trainwreck of a gospel presentation Rick Warren made on the Fox television network. Fox gave Pastor Warren a large chunk of airtime to proclaim the Gospel to millions of American homes (what a wonderful opportunity).

Here's Todd Friel's asessment of what happened (please listen all the way through):



Continued tomorrow - Part 2 of Todd Friel's expose

[1] http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=41520

Friday, September 5, 2008

Purpose Driven Dead End

Standing on the outside and looking in can be an aggravating experience for an outsider viewing the goings on in America by many professing Christians. I love the USA and make no secret of the fact that it is my favorite country in the world. It is the land that fuels world mission and the source of most biblically sound teaching. But among that there are things going on that I can no longer keep silent about. It's time to pick a fight.

There is a certain sacred cow pastor in southern California who I will be talking about in the coming days and perhaps weeks. I can't say his name but his initials are Rick Warren! There seems to be a lot of cyber bullying going on by certain defenders of Rick Warren that is inflicted on anyone who dares to question anything he says or does. In recent times a friend of mine had his website shut down after his ISP was pressured into deleting the website. I know of other preachers who have had doors shut on them after criticising Rick Warren's ministry. Richard Abanes who seems to be RW's top cyberspace attack dog seems to think that all criticism is purely on the basis of people not liking Rick Warren. The fact of the matter is Richard that there are many people critical of the Purpose Driven deception because it is built upon a false gospel. These are people who love the true Gospel and as such cannot stomach a man centred substitute.

There are other things that need to be talked about including the emergent crowd and "red letter christians" who have taken the apolitical moral high ground for so long in criticising the "religious right" for being too political. Well looky here, it's an election year and many of these politcally neutral crusaders are coming out in support of Barack Obama even though he supports the murder of unborn (even late term) babies. The stench you can smell is the rampant hypocrisy. It needs to be talked about and brought into the open. It seems that their problem with the "religious right" was not that they were political but that they don't like that brand of politics. Just like Jim Wallis' book called "God's Politics" which should have been called "Putting God's Name to my Own Left Wing Political Agenda".

I've held off for long enough. Stuff needs to be said because of the fall out that is happening. The Bottom Line's going to Defcon One and it could be a bumpy ride.

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