I continually get asked by my friends in Australia and the USA about when to leave a church and when to hang in there. In Denmark this gets even more difficult because almost every denomination has apostacized here (which was why we planted a new church here - Kristuskirken).
The terrible delusion that many fall into, is to think that they can be a shining light in a fellowship where the Gospel is never preached, and to be an agent of internal reform. Two things to consider with this line of thought:
1. Hebrews 10:25 tells us not to forsake being a part of a body of believers. If you are trying to reform a church that has clearly abandoned the Gospel then you are not attending a local church and therefore disobeying Scripture (I don't mean to trash those who are living in a place with no biblical churches and are stuck in a difficult situation, but if you are in that situation then you should be proactive and urgent in resolving this crisis).
2. Your desire to be a reformer in a landscape of heresy may have devastating consequences on your marriage and children. Many of my male friends who try to do this are not subject to church discipline (because they are not a part of a biblical body of believers) and therefore not held accountable to love their wives as Christ loved the church, and to lead and disciple their families. This is why a healthy local church is a pillar of family life - our fallen sinful nature needs to be interconnected to the body of believers for safeguard and spiritual nourishment. (I will be elaborating on the issue of church discipline next week - the reformers believed that a church that does not practice biblical church discipline is NOT a true church).
Jason Helopoulos recently wrote a guest article for Kevin DeYoung on the Gospel Coalition blog where he listed necessary reasons to leave a local church, possible reasons to leave a local church, and illegitimate reasons for leaving a local church. I have listed them below. Read through them, chew on them, and act accordingly!
Necessary Reasons For Leaving A Church - The Four P’s
1. Providential moving — If my job, family, or life has moved me from Dallas to Austin then I should probably find a local church in Austin, let alone if I moved from Michigan to North Carolina. It is right and good to belong to a local church and covenant with brothers and sisters in my own “backyard.”
2. Planting another church — It may be that I haven’t left my home town, but the church I belong to has decided to send me out with others to plant another church in the area. Notice though, that I am being sent out by my church, not leaving with a group of people because I am disgruntled or think it is a good idea.
3. Purity has been lost — It may take different forms, but primarily this occurs when the Word is no longer proclaimed. It could be that heresy is being taught, the Bible is never read or preached, or a much more prominent manifestation these days is that the Word is no longer seen as sufficient; it is used as a seasoning for the message of the week rather than the diet by which the congregation is fed and nourished upon. However, we must be careful here; patience should always be exercised and I must always test my own heart to see if I am “making a mountain out of a molehill.”
4. Peace of the church is in jeopardy due to my presence — This “reason” is hard to suggest for fear of it being abused, as it is by far the most subjective “reason.” However, there are cases where an individual/family can personally become a hindrance to the ministry of the local church and it is best for that person/family to move-on. If this is the reason I am contemplating leaving the church, then I must first test myself and discern whether it is because of sin on my own part. If that is the case then I must be quick to repent rather than move-on. This “reason” should always be approached with trepidation,
Possible Reasons For Leaving A Church - The Three S’s
1. Spouse — An unbelieving or non-church attending spouse is not willing to attend this church, but will attend another with you.
2. Special Needs — Every family has special needs, so this one needs to be handled with care. A possible example may be that my family has a disabled child and another faithful church in the area has a wonderful ministry to disabled people which can help us.
3. Special Gifts — Another faithful church in the area may have asked for you to use your special gifts in their midst for the building up of the body (i.e. organist). Never decide this one on your own. If it is a possible reason, then it is too easy to think too highly of oneself and go running to the greener pastures. This is always something that should be taken to the leadership of your current church and wrestled through.
Illegitimate Reasons For Leaving A Church
1. Children’s Ministry — The Children’s ministry at another church is better. This cannot be a reason for changing churches. It is rather an opportunity for you to get involved in the children’s ministry of your church.
2. Buzz — Many people will flow to whatever church in town has the current “buzz.” The argument will be that the Spirit is at work there and we want to be part of it. But buzzes come and go. And so do the people that follow them.
3. Youth Group — The unhappiness of our teenage children in the current Youth Group, because of activities, other youth, etc. is not a reason for leaving the church we have covenanted with. I know this one will be controversial. Believe me, I have empathy as a parent and a former Youth Pastor. But our children are not the spiritual directors of our home. They should not be choosing the church we attend based upon their social status and network.
4. Church has changed — Churches always change. Unless the changes are unbiblical than we don’t have a reason to move on. We don’t move on when our wife or husband changes! We are we so quick to do so with the church we have covenanted with.
5. New Pastor — A new pastor is not a sufficient reason to change churches. It doesn’t matter how stiff, impersonal, unfunny, etc. he is. The list is endless. It doesn’t even matter if he is not the most interesting preacher. He is the man God called to this church for this time. And this is your church. Again, unless he is unbiblical why move on? You haven’t covenanted with a man, but with this body.
6. I’m Not Being Ministered to — I tell every one of our new member classes, “If we all walked into church each week and had a list of people we were going to try and ‘touch,’ encourage, or minister to, do you know how dynamic this church would be? Just on Sunday mornings, let alone if we did it during the week. If we each were concerned about the other person and walked in each Sunday with that in the forefront of our mind instead of, “Why didn’t he talk to me?,” “Why doesn’t anyone care about me?,” “Why isn’t anyone ministering to me?” Start ministering to others and you will find that you are being ministered to.
7. Music — not a reason — whether it is slow, fast, traditional, contemporary, Psalms, hymns, or gospel choruses. Stop using it as an excuse!
8. There are others…we haven’t even mentioned the service is too early, the coffee is terrible, the pastor doesn’t know how to shuck corn (Yep…those are all true ones I have heard).
Tuesday, November 5, 2024
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4 comments:
Which Danish churces would you recomment beside your own?
whats up everyone
great forum lots of lovely people just what i need
hopefully this is just what im looking for, looks like i have a lot to read.
Anonymous, I wish I could recommend several Danish churches but I can't. I hold out hope that there are some churches out there where the Gospel is faithfully preached but after three and a half years of looking around and asking lots of questions I haven't found any. All of the major denominations here (at the leadership level) have abandoned the Gospel and are infatuated with methodology. So you will find that the Methodists, Baptists, and Lutherans are saturated with postmodern/emergent influences. Charismatic churches appear in three major forms in Denmark:
1. Kookiness and spookiness circus of Word Faith fantasy.
2. Church growth/seeker sensitive pragmatism
3. Postmodern emergent liberalism/mysticism
Some are a blend of all three.
I am aware, however, of a handful of faithful Gospel preachers sprinkled among these denominations. But all of them preach only occasionally and find themselves in an intense struggle with the predominant ministry approach that is prevailing in their fellowships.
Our church, Kristuskirken, is the only church I know of in Denmark that is willing to publically support the Back to Scripture doctrine statement (also found on my website) and teach in accordance with that. We welcome any church that is willing to co-labor with us in restoring the Gospel in the pulpits and on the streets of Denmark.
Please fill me in if you know something that I am not aware of.
Hey Cameron! Greetings from New Zealand! I've been following your blog for some time now. The stuff you post are always VERY eye opening and have been a blessing to me personally.
Recently I've been considering leaving the church I've been a member of for over 10 years, because it has come to my attention (after studying the Word and listening to sermons by Washer, Piper, MacArthur, etc) that the Gospel is hardly preached anymore while strange, word-faith prosperity type sermons are increasingly becoming the norm, and at times border-lining heresy (which makes me feel like running out the door at times!). In fact, even though my church is under the wing of the Baptist denomination, it is more Charismatic than Baptist in doctrine/essence. The thing that's really preventing me from making the decision to leave my church is that there really aren't any Gospel-centered churches around (that I know of that is) my area. And as one of the leaders in our young adults ministry (I'm 24 by the way), this is a very hard decision for me to take. What do you think is the best course of action I should take? I've been praying and praying about this, yet I'm still not sure on what I ought to do.
~J
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