tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7670425954609557512.post8196620262749945651..comments2023-09-02T07:59:55.010-07:00Comments on The Bottom Line: Mark Driscoll is Not a Heretic, He's Just a Very Naughty Preacher (Part 1)Cameron Buettelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13217501740084187739noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7670425954609557512.post-90887968523621137752012-12-26T10:46:32.306-08:002012-12-26T10:46:32.306-08:00I know this is 3 years old but two things I notice...I know this is 3 years old but two things I noticed in this video, and to clarify I'm not a Mark Driscoll fan, is that Driscoll doesn't even mention Jesus until the 7:10 mark and when he does he talks about Him its as if Jesus is a retired cage fighter. This just reeks of human arrogance and not scriptural humility. Just mho.Russ from Connecticuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10907888522685411228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7670425954609557512.post-47781087199245916622009-07-25T20:28:26.570-07:002009-07-25T20:28:26.570-07:00I've gotta say, if the "Porn Again Christ...I've gotta say, if the "Porn Again Christian" stuff doesn't apply to you, great. But it is good material for the vast majority of young, Christian men out there who, unfortunately, are slaves to lust in many forms (most commonly Internet porn and masturbation).<br /><br />For years the church has skirted around the issue of sexual sin. Sexual sin is addressed, but in hushed, reserved tones with fear of being "inappropriate" or "irreverent". If you're concerned that talking about sexual sin openly and honestly is going to cause Christian men to stumble, I've got news for you... Christian men are already stumbling! This is where secrecy and "decency" has gotten us...<br /><br />Driscoll is a man's preacher. I'll admit, I can totally relate to the "rollercoaster emotional experience"... maybe to a slightly lesser extent, but I've definately caught myself laughing at times and going, "is this guy for real"? Fact is, God is using this man to reach a group of lost people that John MacArthur and the like couldn't BEGIN to touch! That isn't meant in any way to disrespect MacArthur... it's just that I believe God transcends all this stuff... including our understanding of proper methods to minister. It's clear God will do whatever it takes, and use whomever he has to in order to reach the lost.<br /><br />"But his fruits isn't good"?!?! Are you serious? I'd like to see how the poster defines 'fruits that is good'. Through Mars Hill's ministry, young men and women are repenting, being saved, being baptised, and entering a Christian community which is committed to holding true to God's word and reaching the world with the gospel of Jesus Christ. That is good fruit.<br /><br />Cameron, I thought your review was fair. Driscoll pushes the limits of what SOME consider "appropriate" at times. He isn't for everyone. But he's a wise and God-fearing man who loves Jesus and loves the Bible. Anyone who says otherwise has no clue. He is a servent of God and has committed his life to bringing God glory and doing WHATEVER it takes, short of sin, to lead people to Christ. I deeply respect that.<br /><br />Your brother in Christ,<br />JordanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7670425954609557512.post-39987888161597537962009-06-24T17:45:41.424-07:002009-06-24T17:45:41.424-07:00Thanks for your post Rob. Did you find my posts co...Thanks for your post Rob. Did you find my posts concerning Mark fair and even handed? I really do like the guy and am hopeful for the best. But I do sincerely believe that he is crossing the line as far as decency goes on several occasions. I would love for him and Macarthur to get together and have discuss the issue. I'm not saying that Macarthur is always right but the guy does have wisdom, experience, and an outstanding grasp of Scripture. I would love for Mark to take his counsel and steer clear of some subject matter that just isn't necessary to speak about in the way he sometimes does.Cameron Buettelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13217501740084187739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7670425954609557512.post-10015167679913819742009-06-24T15:38:21.091-07:002009-06-24T15:38:21.091-07:00First of all, as a reply to the last poster...that...First of all, as a reply to the last poster...that quote was taken way out of context....in fact, Mark was saying that that verse had been used as condoning masturbation by one of the young men in his church and he was explaining the fallacy in using that verse for masturbation. In fact, Mark preaches against masturbation as a form of subjugation to lust. As far as the fellowship with certain pastors and preaching in certain places...Mark NEVER steps down from the issues, nor does he ever compromise on what he knows to be true. If I could preach in the Crystal Cathedral, I would, only to preach the truth of the word of God where it needs to be preached. I hope he gets in with Osteen as well...get them ALL riled up. People need to understand things from a bigger picture instead of throwing up a red flag every time something intrudes upon their "righteousness". I'm not saying Pastor Mark is sinless or holy, but come on, guys...are you stepping up and preaching?Robb Goodellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11357005586700571421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7670425954609557512.post-49939972561257576372009-06-12T00:04:02.332-07:002009-06-12T00:04:02.332-07:00Well Cam I agree on much here. It's true that ...Well Cam I agree on much here. It's true that Driscoll have some good theology. But his fruits isn't good. His "Porn again Christian" stuff is an abomination. His sayings about masturbation where he use biblical statements like "what youre right hand is doing, do it with all of your heart and all of your stregth" is awful. He's preachings in the Chrystal Cathedral and fellowship with Rick Warren makes me wanna say "no way Driscall, I cannot hear you anymore. Not before you repent from this road and go back to preach and live the word of God, and doesn't try to be hip among the smart and famous guys".René Vesterhttp://sand.omvendelse.dknoreply@blogger.com